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and profundity could well be internationally acclaimed artist Vivan Sundaram's middle name. Though he proclaims he is not an intellectual, his work is marked by an insight and engagement with issues involving erudite learning and path-breaking ideation. Today it might be fashionable for artists to be in the avant garde league, but he has been a pioneer in experimenting with different media for decades. An alumnus of MS University, Baroda, and Slade School of London, his works delve, unpeel and reconstruct history-social, political and even personal. Grandson of Umrao Shergil and nephew of legendary artist Amrita Shergil, Vivan has been reconstructing his grandfather's photographs to tell a new truth. His recent projects involve the use of photographs, found objects, video and three-dimensional constructs. Call him an arranger, a curator or a conceptual artist, there is no denying that few artists of his generation have gone in the direction he has taken. Many of his creations like the installation at Victoria Memorial project are landmark works of art. Excerpts: What makes you reinvent yourself? My detractors often scoff that I am still experimenting and haven't found myself. However, at 70, I can discern certain moves and patterns that go on to make my artistic persona. You have moved away from painting to working with found objects. Was the process organic or was there a trigger? A bit of both. But yes there was an impetus. The Gulf War of 1991 led to a series of works in engine oil and charcoal on paper. I brought in the engine oil tray and stitched it to a drawing. Once an object came so did the relationship with the already existing material. In my next exhibition I was still painting but roping in other materials. For one exhibition I took the painting off the wall and then photography came in. I curated a show on a red sandstone column with photographs of four renowned artists, including Dayanita Singh and Ram Rahman. I began to work in three-four dimensions, giving new meanings to already existing material. Which is more joyful — painting or working with found objects? In painting, one begins from zero to finally arrive at an image over a period of time and thus one invests more emotionally in the creative transformation. While lending new meanings to the existing material, like say a Coke can, the intellectual engagement is greater. I can't say if one is more onerous than the other, only that the challenges are different. Does memory play a big part in your
creative process? Between history and memory there is a thin line. It may not necessarily be my personal memory. Though we look at memory as a more imaginative tool, historians feel that the way you collect facts also involves some degree of memory. My approach varies depending on whether it's social, political or personal history. For truly historical projects like the site-specific installation project in the Durbar Hall of Victoria Memorial Kolkata, it becomes a learning exercise. For Kochi Muziris biennale to represent the ancient seaport of Muziris, I created an imaginary landscape "Black Gold", using discarded terracotta shards taken directly from the archaeological site of Pattanam in MuziriI. Is an artist's perception of history different from a historian? Artists can be more free. I can play around with facts, provocations, the pleasure principle and then qualify it with a rider-it's not an objective take, but my point of view. But whether artists will bring in newer viewpoints, it's hard to say, for as it is few artists will go in that direction. Besides, by and large, artists work from subjectivity, which is not a bad thing by itself. But the moot question is how you extend that notion of subjectivity to the outer and to others. Some artists are doing it, like Arpita Singh refers to Palestine issues but does it in a private way. Some people have found scandalous the way you have represented your aunt Amrita Shergil on whom you have written the book Re-take of Amrita. Indeed, I am often asked just because I am her nephew, doesn't mean I can get away with anything. But I am proposing certain provocations. For instance, self-portrait is a very narcissistic activity. Then there is playacting between the father and daughter, where the daughter even poses in a swimsuit. I am only reading into the photographs, not trying to scandalise, only alluding to the undercurrents of eroticism. But as in one of my constructed photographs where I have made Amrita's hair touch her father's beard, they are close, yet not too close. I also take the same cue and know how near and how far to go. Are you charmed by Amrita who you have chronicled through photomontages as well as a book? Most certainly. Besides her enchanting personality, here was an artist all of 28 years with such a self-questioning intelligent approach of making art. Had she gone to Lahore, which was the cultural capital of the north at that point, instead of Shimla, she would have flowered in a very different way. Is your fascination with the famous Shergil legacy over? Pretty much. Actually I have already moved to another artist Ram Kinkar Baij, who in a way complements Amrita. He was a far more radical artist than her, though he didn't get noticed in the beginning. I am creating a collaborative project for he was a multitalented artist. There will be photographic representations of his works. The exhibition will be held in the IGNCA which has many interesting spaces. But the exciting part is the exhibition will lead to a performance, a three-hour play. The work that I will make will become both a prop and a set. Is it easy to find funding for such unusual projects? No one has to go with a begging bowl. Actually artists are pretty much on their own. How much of your art is influenced by your wife, the renowned art critic Gita Kapur? She is a big name in modernism and I take her view seriously. Her feedback gives me the confidence to carry on even though she doesn't get directly involved with my work. Do you think visual art ought to have a place at literature festivals? Yes, even though there are certain irritants as artists' agenda is different. However, they can include artists who are dealing with narrative and literature. But they must have good advisers for that and not end up inviting illustrators. The focus can be on artists such as Nilima Sheikh, who has done some beautiful paintings on Agha Shahid Ali's poetry. Then there is Atul Dodiya who has worked on Gujarati poetry. You have spoken strongly about artistic freedom. Where do we stand today? Some forward movement is there. But at the same time today we are living in orthodox, conservative times and don't know what the growing right-wing politics will do to culture.
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