"People like Bal
Thackeray cannot judge art"
MANJIT Bawa, at 58, has all the
ingredients which go towards making a person a celebrity.
He has talent, he is famous (his paintings are much
sought after and sell between Rs 2 lakh and Rs 10 lakh a
piece) and is controversial. He likes to socialise and
sets his own rules. But behind this social facade is a
man who is rooted in his culture, his Punjabiat. He is
not flippant about life, and has borne pain and emerged
stronger than before. (His son is handicapped and, he
says, it is from him that he draws his strength and
equanimity).
In his studio at Sujjan
Singh Park, he has his paints, brushes, canvasses all
littered about. A bedroom has been converted into a
sitting room-cum-bedroom. Manjit appears to be busy as he
has friends dropping in, phone calls to attend to and
buyers just coming for a chat. He seems to keep an open
house and thrives in company. There is total chaos in the
room but no one minds because Manjit is a
brilliant conversationalist.
Avid Bawa-watchers feel
he has mellowed. His figures have become solitary and his
use of colour shows that some sort of symbiosis is going
on with the rest of the world, where colour is not only a
provider of luminosity but is also trying to enhance the
verisimilitude of the painting. Another interesting
aspect of his personality is the constant struggle
between his Sufism and the market. "People make
strange demands on me which I try to fulfil but at my own
pace", he says. But when it gets too much, he just
has an exhibition only for himself.
In an exclusive,
no-holds-barred interview with Belu
Maheshwari,
Manjit Bawa talks about his life and times. Excerpts:
Tell us about your
childhood. Who initiated you into painting?
I was born in a
goshala at Dhuri in Malwa region. My father was a
timber merchant but he was fond of cows and tended to
them in his spare time. I am the youngest of five sons.
My elder brother Manmohan Singh Bawa, who could paint,
saw my sketches and initiated me into painting.
Are you a trained
artist?
From Dhuri we shifted to
Delhi, where I had my education. I used to go for my art
classes but the older students used me as a model in
spite of my patka. Then I applied for College of
Art. My art teacher Abani Sen showed my work to the
Ministry of Culture and pressurised them into taking me.
There used to be just 22 seats in the college in 1958
when I joined. I learnt a lot in those five years.
When did you hold
your first show?
After Arts College, I
travelled in a car to Europe. I still remember singing to
my mother Mat ro ma lal tere bahutere when
I was about to go. I lived in England for eight years,
learning and teaching at the Institute of Adult
Education. I held two of my solo shows in England. My
time in India started after 1973,or even later. My
vagabond days came to an end only around 1980 when I won
the National Award.
How much of a Sikh
are you?
I am very much a Sikh.
Not the militant Sikh but a believer in Sufi-Bhakti cult
of Sikhism. I read Guru Granth Sahib but I am not a
practising Sikh. I have read great works of other
religions like the Bhagavadagita, Shiv Purana, Ramayana
etc. I hated Manu Smriti. I love Punjab. I feel a oneness
with its soil. My language is Punjabi. The remark made to
me in childhood stays in memory, "What can a Sardar
paint."
What are your
earliest memories?
The most striking memory
is of Partition, collecting food for refugees, seeing
multimillionaire reduced to selling fruits. It left a
deep impact. I remember my father went to leave a Muslim
mason to the station and he was attacked.
What rules, or what
school of art have you followed?
Basically I have created
my own rules. I was the first to use colours like violet,
shocking pink, bright yellow and green on large spaces. I
used flat colours. The only other artist using it was J.
Swaminathan. On the canvas I put emblematic images. I was
criticised a lot but stuck to my intuitive and innate
sense of form.
What is your method
of working ?
I do hundreds of
drawings. I then trace these drawings on to the canvas.
My work is planned. Painting is a discipline where you
have to think and execute. After the drawing, I am
nervous about using colour and may not colour the canvas
for days. I study forms, imbibe knowledge from all over.
Art is a serious activity though people dont think
so. I work all seven days of the week. In my field there
is a lot of fraud, it is a pseudo world but the real good
artist cannot be kept down. He will be recognised.
You are supposed to
be a temperamental person who can be quite rude...
This is not true. I
appreciate good people. Politeness and gentleness are
virtues which I like, but when someone tells a lie I
cannot tolerate it. Surjit and Barnala called me to help
in conceptualising the tercentenary function. A
bureaucrat started talking about building a model village
where my paintings could hang along with a charkha.
I asked him: Where are these model villages in Punjab? I
was blunt enough to say that use the money to make drains
and toilets in the villages.
Even when I started,
people took my honesty(in their stride). I do not have
the time for drama. May be that is called being
temperamental.
You seem to socialise
a lot. Most society magazines write about you.
My friends are important
for me. I like to sit with them. I have friends from all
walks of life. Madan Mohan Singh, Bobby Bedi and Varsha
Bedi, who made Bandit Queen, singer Rekha Surya
etc. But at heart, I am a Sufi. I can get along with the
simplest of villagers. I go to Punjab. I perform there at
Lohri, sing the night away.
Singing seems to be
another facet of your personality.
I sing for my pleasure.
Music has always been a part of my life. My wife is a
trained sitar player. I learnt to play tabla to accompany
her. What I lack in technique, I make up with my zest. I
can play the flute also. Another love is Sufi poetry
which I sing for friends. My favourites are Baba Farid,
Waris Shah, Shah Hussain, and Bulle Shah. I am a great
admirer of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan.
How would you rate
the Indian art scene; are good artists finding an outlet?
The art scene is
prospering, though there is a lot of fraud going on, too.
Today, we have more than 150 art galleries in Delhi
crying for artists works. But most are empty. We do
not have enough work. A good painter cannot be kept down.
May be for a few years an ordinary painter becomes famous
because of media hype but the sieve of time is very
strong, everything not worth its weight will filter down.
We are not backward
compared to other countries in art though they have
technically better painters.
You criticised the
film Fire but praised the work of
M.F. Husain even when both offended a section of society.
I did not think the film
was well made. Shabana gave a great performance. I feel
once the censors have passed a film we do not have the
right to change or criticise it. Similarly, Husain Saheb
made a perfect work of art. He was inspired by Hindu
sculptures. People like Bal Thackeray cannot judge art.
Bajrang Dal should be tolerant of others opinions and
behave in a more restrained manner.
What about your
family life?
I got married when I was
28. I have two children. God has blessed me with a son
who has taught me a lot in life love, patience and
the power of giving. He is deaf but he is a good painter
and writes a lot. My daughter is young, thirteen years
old.
What do you feel
about the state of the country?
I feel sad. Ma is ill
my motherland is bleeding. Most politicians are besharam,
we need to change the system because today good people
will not win.
Do you think of
leaving a mark for posterity?
Yes, at times. Two years
back I started working for posterity. I felt my art
should live. For one year I did not paint, only drew. I
do feel my grand kids should have my paintings.
I am worried, Punjab
does not have my work. I, at times, feel the world has
recognised me but I still seem to be Punjabs kapoot.
I love Punjab.
You are famous for
being surrounded by women.
Some of my best friends
are women. I relate to them well, not as a man to a woman
but as two individuals. An artist cannot escape women---
there are women artists, galleries are owned by women and
the buyers are women. Girls today are smart, they control
things without raising a hue and cry. Men are
namby-pamby. I admire todays woman, she manages her
home and is a good professional also.
What has life taught
you?
I have changed after my
sons birth, evolved as a person. God has chosen me
to do his seva. I feel no one is handicapped.
People who have all the five senses functioning might not
have an Atma, the most important trait in a
person.
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